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2000 10 21 Vrindavan Appearance Day Of Srila Sriddhar Maharaja T 1713

(short 10 minute audio file; starts in middle of sentence.)

Śrīla Gurudeva: A very good singer should (sing)…(Prabhupāda) told that, "Oh, call Sridhar Mahārāja and he will sing. "He came but he told that, "I can not sing because I have not a good voice and I have not sang anytime. I can not sing; I can not do karatālas and (these) things."

Prabhupāda told that, "I have not come to hear melody. Not karatālas (or) any instrument. I want to hear words from any pure devotee." And then he told, "Anyhow you should, without melody or anything or so much (Hindi), but you should do."

He was hesitating, but Prabhupāda told again and again and then he did this kīrtana. Can you (do this kīrtana)?

On this very day, in Kārtikka month, he appeared in this world; he descended. Śrīla Prabhupāda came, descended, to this world — Oh! — with so many devotees, very high class. And he preached the mission of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Those who preach the mission of Śrī Prabhupāda, among his disciples, param-pūjyapāda Śrīdhar Mahārāja was one of the prominent, from (the) beginning he has preached so much.

Today we want to glorify him and by that glorification we want to give puṣpāñjali in his lotus feet. First, through glorification, we will give puṣpāñjali in the lotus feet of param-pūjyapāda Mahārāja and after that we will do ārati and then puṣpāñjali; puṣpāñjali with flowers, not flowers — our hearts should be flower — and give.

So, I requesting my godbrother, Śrī Śrīmad Bhaktivedānta Vaiṣṇava Mahārāja (Hindi aside)…

He used to go to param-pūjyapāda Śrīdhar Mahārāja with his Gurudeva nitya-līlā-praviṣṭa oṁ viṣṇupāda Śrī Śrīmad Bhakti Prajñāna Keśava Gosvāmī Mahārāja. We also used to go with him and he was very attracted with his personality and his hari-kathā. He told that, "You can understand how much he was glorious and how he was siddhāntavi, that even a person (indistinct) like our Guru Mahārāja, Śrīla Bhakti Prajñāna Keśava Gosvāmī Mahārāja, he took sannyāsa from, he took renounced order from, param-pūjyapāda Śrīdhar Mahārāja at Katva. So many vaiṣṇavas were there and a big feast was there and he gave sannyāsa and param-pūjyapāda Sroti Mahārāja and all of (indistinct) were there. They did sacrifice, yajña, there. He was so learned that he has done so many prayers like (indistinct – [Śrī Prema–Dhāma–Deva–Stotraṁ]) all he has done. And he is glorified in so many ways. He established that maṭha(indistinct — [Śrī Caitanya Sarasvat maṭha]) and he told so many things.

Now I will request Śrīpad Sannyāsī Mahārāja if he can glorify…Not more than five minutes.

Our Guru Mahārāja used to accept him as sannyāsa Guru and every year he used to go; discussing so many things. I will explain in the last.

(Hindi aside)…

And very attractive and very deep philosophy. So, all used to come to him to hear his philosophical classes and instructions and he told so many things.

Why all went to him and attracted? What was the reason? What was the root cause that all devotees used to go to him? Can you tell?

Urukrama prabhu (now Padmanābha Mahārāja): Yes…

Śrīla Gurudeva: What? What was the reason?

Urukrama prabhu (now Padmanābha Mahārāja): Śrīla Śrīdhar Mahārāja…

Śrīla Gurudeva: 'Cause himself, Śrīla Bhaktivedānta Swami Mahārāja, glorified him.

Urukrama prabhu (now Padmanābha Mahārāja): Yes…

Śrīla Gurudeva: And that is (the reason why) all were attracted — otherwise not.

Audience: (applause)

Śrīla Gurudeva: I think. He told that, "He is my śikṣā guru and very intelligent and very powerful vaiṣṇava." And they heard and they (thought), "Oh how glorious is he? We must see him." And that is why all (came to him). Otherwise, if Svāmīji had not told, not a bird has gone there. Is it right?

Urukrama prabhu (now Padmanābha Mahārāja): Absolutely true.

Śrīla Gurudeva: Am I wrong?

Audience: 100% right…for you also…Svāmīji told, "Go to Mahārāja and get help from him…"

Urukrama prabhu (now Padmanābha Mahārāja): So, on this point that Śrīla Gurudeva had just mentioned, I want to express something…

Śrīla Gurudeva: Also, for me, if he has not told about me anyone has not (indistinct) in whole world. He is the root cause of my also. That I am everywhere, all are honoring, and all devotees are coming. Oh, root cause is he, Svāmīji.

Urukrama prabhu (now Padmanābha Mahārāja): To prove this point that Gurudeva has just made I will tell a couple of incidences…

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Śrīla Gurudeva: …arcana of Mahārāja who will do? I will do ārati no harm. But, if you like you can do arcana in (a) very condensed, or my brahmacārīs will do. He will do. We should do kīrtana, Śrī Guru-Caraṇa-Padma or Saṁsāra-Dāvānala. You should do. You should do saṁsāra-dāvānala.

(Hindi aside)…


20001021_Vrindavan Appearance Day Of Srila Sridhar Maharaja Explanation Of His Name and Srila Prabhupada T 1714

Śrīla Gurudeva: …disciple has right to tell (address) his gurudeva (as) Prabhupāda, no objection. But, other hand, all the disciples of Śrīla Prabhupāda has decided that we will not take this surname of Śrīla Prabhupāda; we have right reserved (this name) in Śrīla Prabhupāda. So, we will not do. But if a disciple of Svāmīji is telling Prabhupāda or A.C.…nothing to tell. They can tell it. But we can not do it. Why? Our Guru Mahārāja was not satisfied that he was using A.C. Bhaktivedānta. Gurudeva has given him what? Bhaktivedānta Swami Mahārāja; tridaṇḍi Swami Bhaktivedānta Swami Mahārāja.

So, all the godbrothers of Guru Mahārāja, they have accepted this name. So, any of Prabhupāda's disciples they have not accepted him (as) A.C. Bhaktivedānta because this is against the law. What Guru Mahārāja has given name, it should be for whole life. So, gṛhastha name should not be done. And Prabhupāda also they can not accept; but any śiṣya can do it.

I had a question, that why the disciples of Svarūpa, Bhaktisvarūpa Dāmodara or Tamāla Kṛṣṇa Mahārāja, or any of the disciples (of Svāmīji), why they don't use their guru Prabhupāda? Why? Can they do? They can take all (other names) but can they tell (Prabhupāda)? If they are accepting this Prabhupāda next day we can not see them, they are shooted. At once. They can not accept. So, I think that if we are not telling, but we have no objection that they are telling Prabhupāda. But we have some theory and that is why we are not telling; but any śiṣya can tell. So, we have no objection that you are telling Prabhupāda. I tell you that you can tell. No harm. But don't give any pressure on us that, "You should also tell him." That will be very wrong. You should not do.

Now I am coming to this point. I have no objection. We have no objection that anyone can tell him Śrīdhar-dev Gosvāmī. Then a question may come, "Why you are not accepting this?" You should know that any…What Prabhupāda has given name to param-pūjyapāda Śrīdhar Mahārāja. What name he has given?

Devotee: Śrīdhar Mahārāja.

Śrīla Gurudeva: So, why you are not accepting this? Who has told it? Any of the godbrothers of Śrīla Bhakti Śrīdhar Mahārāja has accepted and told him? Bhakti Dvaita Mādhava Gosvāmī Mahārāja, Sroti Mahārāja pūjyapāda, our Gurudeva, taking sannyāsa from him. Paramahaṁsa Mahārāja, Bhakti Madhusūdana Mahārāja — any one of the disciples of Śrīla Prabhupāda have they accepted this?

And has he written himself? Then why we are not accepting authorities? Who has given this nickname to him? Who? Who has given this surname to him? Who? Can you tell? Then how (he has attained) this name?

You should know the meaning of deva. Deva means budevbrāhmaṇas. Deva means grdāsīgrdāsī you know? Govindadeva. He is Himself Kṛṣṇa playing with gopīs in so many ways with Śrīmati, Yaśodā Maiyā also, Dāmodara līlā and so many… and in rāsa and doing. So, Kṛṣṇa is the (indistinct). This meaning.

param-pūjyapāda Śrīdhar Mahārāja (indistinct) with whom? Whom is (indistinct). No, we can (not) accept this. If deva means brāhmaṇa then and anyone thinks that param-pūjyapāda Śrīdhar Mahārāja as Bhaṭṭācārya, coming from Bhaṭṭācārya and he was brāhmaṇa and all were caste and śūdra and all others. This story is very, very dangerous. Against the law of vaiṣṇavism.

(Hindi aside)…

…because he was brāhmaṇa

(Hindi aside)…

Understand what I am going to tell?

I am telling that, if anyone thinks that he was brāhmaṇa, he was Bhaṭṭācārya, and he was more superior than other vaiṣṇavas who were in low caste like kṣatriya — Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura was kṣatriya — and Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura was brāhmaṇa. So, Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura is more superior than Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura. Oh, very dangerous! Offense! So, param-pūjyapāda Śrīdhar Mahārāja was brāhmaṇa, high-cultured brāhmaṇa, Bhaṭṭācārya, and all are (indistinct) and that is why you should use Dev-Goswāmī so he will be superior. Very dangerous. Very dangerous. We should not think.

Brajanātha dāsa: They are telling that, "Just like Gurudeva, Śrīdhar-dev — it is the same."

Śrīla Gurudeva: If they are in good way, we have no objection; they can tell. We have no… But what our Guru Mahārāja, what the others, and what Prabhupāda has given name it is (indistinct) and sufficient more than anything. So, if anyone telling, I have no (objection), they should speak. I am not going to minimize him. But if I am telling that Śrīdhar-dev Goswāmī due to brāhmaṇism then we are…

Question is that who has put this name. Who put? Any authority has done? Or any unqualified person or who has kept this name?

(Hindi aside)…

You will have to understand in this way. Our (unknown) you know? He tells:

paramahaṁsa… (unknown)…nitya-līlā-praviṣṭa oṁ viṣṇupāda

And so many more, I don't remember. About more than 15 he tells. But he does not know. He is a boy.

(Hindi aside)…

If anyone telling (unknown) tridaṇḍi svāmī what is the meaning? tridaṇḍi svāmī how he can be (unknown) of paramahaṁsa? How it is? Quite opposite; and if nitya-līlā-praviṣṭa then how he can be paramahaṁsa (unknown)? In one adjective nitya-līlā-praviṣṭa it is more than anyone what we are telling.

Devotee: Only nitya-līlā-praviṣṭa…is enough…

Śrīla Gurudeva: …nitya-līlā-praviṣṭa means he is with Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa serving. Any paramahaṁsa can be equal to that nitya-līlā-praviṣṭa? Never. But (unknown) they can not reconcile all these things. So, they think that, "Oh, (Hindi aside)… "

So, I think that if any authority has done, very good. And if his motive is good, that jagatguru may be called deva, no harm. But what is the mood? And who has given this? So, if it is given by any authority, like Śrīla Prabhupāda, or the devotees of Śrīla Prabhupāda, gladly we can accept, no harm. And if anyone doing no harm, we don't want to disturb them.

Now, time is over.

Anyhow, if anyone telling deva we will respect (him). We have no objection. But I can not tell, knowing all these things.

So, today Gaura premānande!

Hari hari bol!

If anything to discuss you can discuss; but I have no bad motive against param-pūjyapāda Śrīdhar Mahārāja. He is my so much honorable and he is sannyāsa Guru of my Gurudeva. I have so much respect. My Gurudeva has respect — a disciple how he can minimize him? Never. Never. So, if anyone thinking that I am minimizing I want to tell him, "Don't take my offense, be very merciful to me."

Gaura premānande! Hari hari bol!